If You Don’t Approve Of Bombing Kids Don’t Give The Bombers Money

‘How can we stand by and allow this to go on?’
Published: 31 July 2006
They wrote the names of the dead children on their plastic shrouds. ” Mehdi Hashem, aged seven Qana,” was written in felt pen on the bag in which the little boy’s body lay. “Hussein al-Mohamed, aged 12 Qana”, “Abbas al-Shalhoub, aged one Qana.'’ And when the Lebanese soldier went to pick up Abbas’s little body, it bounced on his shoulder as the boy might have done on his father’s shoulder on Saturday. In all, there were 56 corpses brought to the Tyre government hospital and other surgeries, and 34 of them were children. When they ran out of plastic bags, they wrapped the small corpses in carpets. Their hair was matted with dust, most had blood running from their noses.
You must have a heart of stone not to feel the outrage that those of us watching this experienced yesterday. This slaughter was an obscenity, an atrocity yes, if the Israeli air force truly bombs with the ” pinpoint accuracy'’ it claims, this was also a war crime. Israel claimed that missiles had been fired by Hizbollah gunmen from the south Lebanese town of Qana as if that justified this massacre. Israel’s Prime Minister, Ehud Olmert, talked about “Muslim terror” threatening ” western civilisation” as if the Hizbollah had killed all these poor people.
And in Qana, of all places. For only 10 years ago, this was the scene of another Israeli massacre, the slaughter of 106 Lebanese refugees by an Israeli artillery battery as they sheltered in a UN base in the town. More than half of those 106 were children. Israel later said it had no live-time pilotless photo-reconnaissance aircraft over the scene of that killing a statement that turned out to be untrue when The Independent discovered videotape showing just such an aircraft over the burning camp. It is as if Qana whose inhabitants claim that this was the village in which Jesus turned water into wine has been damned by the world, doomed forever to receive tragedy.
And there was no doubt of the missile which killed all those children yesterday. It came from the United States, and upon a fragment of it was written: “For use on MK-84 Guided Bomb BSU-37-B”. No doubt the manufacturers can call it “combat-proven” because it destroyed the entire three-storey house in which the Shalhoub and Hashim families lived. They had taken refuge in the basement from an enormous Israeli bombardment, and that is where most of them died.
I found Nejwah Shalhoub lying in the government hospital in Tyre, her jaw and face bandaged like Robespierre’s before his execution. She did not weep, nor did she scream, although the pain was written on her face. Her brother Taisir, who was 46, had been killed. So had her sister Najla. So had her little niece Zeinab, who was just six. “We were in the basement hiding when the bomb exploded at one o’clock in the morning,'’ she said. “What in the name of God have we done to deserve this? So many of the dead are children, the old, women. Some of the children were still awake and playing. Why does the world do this to us?”
Yesterday’s deaths brought to more than 500 the total civilian dead in Lebanon since Israel’s air, sea and land bombardment of the country began on 12 July after Hizbollah members crossed the frontier wire, killed three Israeli soldiers and captured two others. But yesterday’s slaughter ended more than a year of mutual antagonism within the Lebanese government as pro-American and pro-Syrian politicians denounced what they described as ” an ugly crime”.
Thousands of protesters attacked the largest United Nations building in Beirut, screaming: “Destroy Tel Aviv, destroy Tel Aviv,” and Lebanon’s Prime Minister, the normally unflappable Fouad Siniora, called US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and ordered her to cancel her imminent peace-making trip to Beirut.
No one in this country can forget how President George Bush, Ms Rice, and Tony Blair have repeatedly refused to call for an immediate ceasefire a truce that would have saved all those lives yesterday. Ms Rice would say only: “We want a ceasefire as soon as possible,'’ a remark followed by an Israeli announcement that it intended to maintain its bombardment of Lebanon for at least another two weeks.
Throughout the day, Qana villagers and civil defence workers dug through the ruins of the building with spades and with their hands, tearing at the muck until they found one body after another still dressed in colourful clothes. In one section of the rubble, they found what was left of a single room with 18 bodies inside. Twelve of the dead were women. All across southern Lebanon now, you find scenes like this, not so grotesque in scale, perhaps, but just as terrible, for the people of these villages are terrified to leave and terrified to stay. The Israelis had dropped leaflets over Qana, ordering its people to leave their homes. Yet twice now since Israel’s onslaught began, the Israelis have ordered villagers to leave their houses and then attacked them with aircraft as they obeyed the Israeli instructions and fled. There are at least 3,000 Shia Muslims trapped in villages between Qlaya and Aiteroun close to the scene of Israel’s last military incursion at Bint Jbeil and yet none of them can leave without fear of dying on the roads.
And Mr Olmert’s reaction? After expressing his “great sorrow”, he announced that: “We will not stop this battle, despite the difficult incidents [sic] this morning. We will continue the activity, and if necessary it will be broadened without hesitation.” But how much further can it be broadened? Lebanon’s infrastructure is being steadily torn to pieces, its villages razed, its people more and more terrorised and terror is the word they used by Israel’s American-made fighter bombers. Hizbollah’s missiles are Iranian-made, and it was Hizbollah that started this war with its illegal and provocative raid across the border. But Israel’s savagery against the civilian population has deeply shocked not only the Western diplomats who have remained in Beirut, but hundreds of humanitarian workers from the Red Cross and major aid agencies.
Incredibly, Israel yesterday denied safe passage to a UN World Food Programme aid convoy en route to the south, a six-truck mission that should have taken relief supplies to the south-eastern town of Marjayoun. More than three quarters of a million Lebanese have now fled their homes, but there is still no accurate figure for the total number still trapped in the south. Khalil Shalhoub, who survived amid the wreckage in Qana yesterday, said that his family and the Hashims were just too “terrified” to take the road out of the village, which has been attacked by aircraft for more than two weeks. The seven-mile highway between Qana and Tyre is littered with civilian homes in ruins and burnt-out family cars. On Thursday, the Israeli Army’s Al-Mashriq radio, which broadcasts into southern Lebanon, told residents that their villages would be “totally destroyed” if missiles were fired from them. But anyone who has watched Israel’s bombing these past two weeks knows that, in many cases, the Israelis do not know the location in which the Hizbollah are firing missiles, and when they do they frequently miss their targets. How can a villager prevent the Hizbollah from firing rockets from his street? The Hizbollah do take cover beside civilian houses just as Israeli troops entering Bint Jbeil last week also used civilian homes for cover. But can this be the excuse for slaughter on such a scale?
Mr Siniora addressed foreign diplomats in Beirut yesterday, telling them that the government in Beirut was now only demanding an immediate ceasefire and was not interested any longer in a political package to go with it. Needless to say, Mr Jeffrey Feltman, whose country made the bomb which killed the innocents of Qana yesterday, chose not to attend.
They wrote the names of the dead children on their plastic shrouds. ” Mehdi Hashem, aged seven Qana,” was written in felt pen on the bag in which the little boy’s body lay. “Hussein al-Mohamed, aged 12 Qana”, “Abbas al-Shalhoub, aged one Qana.'’ And when the Lebanese soldier went to pick up Abbas’s little body, it bounced on his shoulder as the boy might have done on his father’s shoulder on Saturday. In all, there were 56 corpses brought to the Tyre government hospital and other surgeries, and 34 of them were children. When they ran out of plastic bags, they wrapped the small corpses in carpets. Their hair was matted with dust, most had blood running from their noses.
You must have a heart of stone not to feel the outrage that those of us watching this experienced yesterday. This slaughter was an obscenity, an atrocity yes, if the Israeli air force truly bombs with the ” pinpoint accuracy'’ it claims, this was also a war crime. Israel claimed that missiles had been fired by Hizbollah gunmen from the south Lebanese town of Qana as if that justified this massacre. Israel’s Prime Minister, Ehud Olmert, talked about “Muslim terror” threatening ” western civilisation” as if the Hizbollah had killed all these poor people.
And in Qana, of all places. For only 10 years ago, this was the scene of another Israeli massacre, the slaughter of 106 Lebanese refugees by an Israeli artillery battery as they sheltered in a UN base in the town. More than half of those 106 were children. Israel later said it had no live-time pilotless photo-reconnaissance aircraft over the scene of that killing a statement that turned out to be untrue when The Independent discovered videotape showing just such an aircraft over the burning camp. It is as if Qana whose inhabitants claim that this was the village in which Jesus turned water into wine has been damned by the world, doomed forever to receive tragedy.
And there was no doubt of the missile which killed all those children yesterday. It came from the United States, and upon a fragment of it was written: “For use on MK-84 Guided Bomb BSU-37-B”. No doubt the manufacturers can call it “combat-proven” because it destroyed the entire three-storey house in which the Shalhoub and Hashim families lived. They had taken refuge in the basement from an enormous Israeli bombardment, and that is where most of them died.
I found Nejwah Shalhoub lying in the government hospital in Tyre, her jaw and face bandaged like Robespierre’s before his execution. She did not weep, nor did she scream, although the pain was written on her face. Her brother Taisir, who was 46, had been killed. So had her sister Najla. So had her little niece Zeinab, who was just six. “We were in the basement hiding when the bomb exploded at one o’clock in the morning,'’ she said. “What in the name of God have we done to deserve this? So many of the dead are children, the old, women. Some of the children were still awake and playing. Why does the world do this to us?”
Yesterday’s deaths brought to more than 500 the total civilian dead in Lebanon since Israel’s air, sea and land bombardment of the country began on 12 July after Hizbollah members crossed the frontier wire, killed three Israeli soldiers and captured two others. But yesterday’s slaughter ended more than a year of mutual antagonism within the Lebanese government as pro-American and pro-Syrian politicians denounced what they described as ” an ugly crime”.
Thousands of protesters attacked the largest United Nations building in Beirut, screaming: “Destroy Tel Aviv, destroy Tel Aviv,” and Lebanon’s Prime Minister, the normally unflappable Fouad Siniora, called US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and ordered her to cancel her imminent peace-making trip to Beirut.
No one in this country can forget how President George Bush, Ms Rice, and Tony Blair have repeatedly refused to call for an immediate ceasefire a truce that would have saved all those lives yesterday. Ms Rice would say only: “We want a ceasefire as soon as possible,'’ a remark followed by an Israeli announcement that it intended to maintain its bombardment of Lebanon for at least another two weeks.
Throughout the day, Qana villagers and civil defence workers dug through the ruins of the building with spades and with their hands, tearing at the muck until they found one body after another still dressed in colourful clothes. In one section of the rubble, they found what was left of a single room with 18 bodies inside. Twelve of the dead were women. All across southern Lebanon now, you find scenes like this, not so grotesque in scale, perhaps, but just as terrible, for the people of these villages are terrified to leave and terrified to stay. The Israelis had dropped leaflets over Qana, ordering its people to leave their homes. Yet twice now since Israel’s onslaught began, the Israelis have ordered villagers to leave their houses and then attacked them with aircraft as they obeyed the Israeli instructions and fled. There are at least 3,000 Shia Muslims trapped in villages between Qlaya and Aiteroun close to the scene of Israel’s last military incursion at Bint Jbeil and yet none of them can leave without fear of dying on the roads.
And Mr Olmert’s reaction? After expressing his “great sorrow”, he announced that: “We will not stop this battle, despite the difficult incidents [sic] this morning. We will continue the activity, and if necessary it will be broadened without hesitation.” But how much further can it be broadened? Lebanon’s infrastructure is being steadily torn to pieces, its villages razed, its people more and more terrorised and terror is the word they used by Israel’s American-made fighter bombers. Hizbollah’s missiles are Iranian-made, and it was Hizbollah that started this war with its illegal and provocative raid across the border. But Israel’s savagery against the civilian population has deeply shocked not only the Western diplomats who have remained in Beirut, but hundreds of humanitarian workers from the Red Cross and major aid agencies.
Incredibly, Israel yesterday denied safe passage to a UN World Food Programme aid convoy en route to the south, a six-truck mission that should have taken relief supplies to the south-eastern town of Marjayoun. More than three quarters of a million Lebanese have now fled their homes, but there is still no accurate figure for the total number still trapped in the south. Khalil Shalhoub, who survived amid the wreckage in Qana yesterday, said that his family and the Hashims were just too “terrified” to take the road out of the village, which has been attacked by aircraft for more than two weeks. The seven-mile highway between Qana and Tyre is littered with civilian homes in ruins and burnt-out family cars. On Thursday, the Israeli Army’s Al-Mashriq radio, which broadcasts into southern Lebanon, told residents that their villages would be “totally destroyed” if missiles were fired from them. But anyone who has watched Israel’s bombing these past two weeks knows that, in many cases, the Israelis do not know the location in which the Hizbollah are firing missiles, and when they do they frequently miss their targets. How can a villager prevent the Hizbollah from firing rockets from his street? The Hizbollah do take cover beside civilian houses just as Israeli troops entering Bint Jbeil last week also used civilian homes for cover. But can this be the excuse for slaughter on such a scale?
Mr Siniora addressed foreign diplomats in Beirut yesterday, telling them that the government in Beirut was now only demanding an immediate ceasefire and was not interested any longer in a political package to go with it. Needless to say, Mr Jeffrey Feltman, whose country made the bomb which killed the innocents of Qana yesterday, chose not to attend.
markfromireland

Don’t even think of making a comment here trying to justify what America and Israel are doing. There’s nothing “fair and balanced” about infanticide.
Comment by markfromireland — July 31, 2006 @ 2:41 pm
My family had already begun our boycott Mark, but that barcode thingee is brilliant. I plan to use it in my next blogpost and ask that everyone spread it as far & wide as possible — as quickly as possible. Thanks - for this and everything else you do — please don’t ever stop.
Comment by Richard — July 31, 2006 @ 5:17 pm
I cannot imagine any human exists who would attempt to justify this massacre of innocents! Don’t worry I have started my boycott already like Richard.
Comment by Grania — July 31, 2006 @ 5:45 pm
Oh I’ve no intention of shutting up or stopping Richard :-) What’s being done is damned well intolerable.
Comment by markfromireland — July 31, 2006 @ 7:25 pm
For those of us needing a lighter moment i.e. lunacy instead of plain old insanity,
there’s always Billmon-
http://billmon.org/archives/002609.html
and
http://billmon.org/archives/002606.html
Comment by Griffon — August 1, 2006 @ 2:33 am
Mr Fisk is back in harness (pulling the bleeding obvious out into the light)-
” Indeed, how come the people of southern Lebanon have not been consulted about the army which is supposed to live in their lands? Because, of course, it is not coming for them. It will come because the Israelis and the Americans want it there to help reshape the Middle East. This no doubt makes sense in Washington - where self-delusion rules diplomacy almost as much as it does in Israel - but America’s dreams usually become the Middle East’s nightmares.”
The rest is here-
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article14309.htm
Comment by Griffon — August 1, 2006 @ 2:57 am
Further from Robert Fisk’s article-
“But most of the force (UN peacekeeping) will be Muslim, we are told. This may be true, and the Turks are already unwisely agreeing to participate.”
Now why would Turkey want to jamb it’s troops into this vice? What’s in it for them?
Well Michel Chossudovsky tells us here-
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=CHO20060726&articleId=2824
“In this context, the BTC pipeline dominated by British Petroleum, has dramatically changed the geopolitics of the Eastern Mediterranean, which is now linked , through an energy corridor, to the Caspian sea basin:
“[The BTC pipeline] considerably changes the status of the region’s countries and cements a new pro-West alliance. Having taken the pipeline to the Mediterranean, Washington has practically set up a new bloc with Azerbaijan, Georgia, Turkey and Israel, ” (Komerzant, Moscow, 14 July 2006)
Israel is now part of the Anglo-American military axis, which serves the interests of the Western oil giants in the Middle East and Central Asia.
While the official reports state that the BTC pipeline will “channel oil to Western markets”, what is rarely acknowledged is that part of the oil from the Caspian sea would be directly channeled towards Israel. In this regard, an underwater Israeli-Turkish pipeline project has been envisaged which would link Ceyhan to the Israeli port of Ashkelon and from there through Israel’s main pipeline system, to the Red Sea.
The objective of Israel is not only to acquire Caspian sea oil for its own consumption needs but also to play a key role in re-exporting Caspian sea oil back to the Asian markets through the Red Sea port of Eilat. The strategic implications of this re-routing of Caspian sea oil are farreaching.”
It goes a long way to explaining why Israel is apparently indiscriminently destroying as much of Lebanese infrastructure as possible. With the country in ruins the lebanese govt are more likely to accept help from wherever they can get an all the conditions that go along with it. With Us, Israel and Turkey stepping up to the plate after the bombing stops, the rest of the world will say “Thank goodness” and step back and leave broken Lebanon to their greedy clutches and the demands and “solutions” of the international oil companies.
Comment by Griffon — August 1, 2006 @ 3:50 am
My god. That’s a 2000lb bomb applied to a civilan target. What is the blast radius of that?
Comment by Tortoise — August 1, 2006 @ 6:28 am
There’s a rather ominous ending to this article-
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0729-06.htm
Comment by Griffon — August 1, 2006 @ 10:36 am
It depends tortoise I’d expect a minimum killbox of 100m. That being said that’s a minimum. Assuming a modern bomb and favourable circumstances such as non-hardened targets you can achieve up to ~ 250m x 250m.
Comment by markfromireland — August 1, 2006 @ 12:55 pm
I knew about what’s not yet fully out in the open re: the completion of the Turkish land pipe line & coastal terminal - even down to the unofficial start of flow - and offcial opening.
What’s also interesting is something that happened shortly before sucessfull completion [and not too long before the Lebanon invasion begun - which incidentally has a nice stretch of coastline very stratigically placed to protect all sea tanker tonnage in that Turkish/Lebanes/Syrian Med corner] - The Turks suddenly found the money, techni-know-how, urge/need [and certain permissions/green lights] to draw up plans for nice hefty nuclear reactors.
Aas an aside [cum reliable local knowledge/source] the local/ordinary Turkish people were immediately against the whole idea.
Btw, when I say I know, I mean I know.
Comment by Richard — August 1, 2006 @ 1:51 pm
Richard did you see this:
http://www.zaman.com/?bl=hotnews&alt=&trh=20060731&hn=35247
yesterday?
Comment by markfromireland — August 1, 2006 @ 4:14 pm
Thanks, Mark, I hadn’t. You beat
meour kid to it this time, but I’ll excuse him for falling behind a bit as he’s over here right now — cooling down — in a couple of ways.Comment by Richard — August 1, 2006 @ 6:58 pm
Re the Zaman article - do I smell a deal in the wind? Something like “if we (US/Israel) serve up the PKK to you (Turkey) will you let us resupply our troops through you from the north?”
Is it plan B after things aren’t going according to plan in the Lebanon?
Comment by Griffon — August 1, 2006 @ 9:53 pm
I really should have given some context griffon.
No I don’t see it that way. The Iranian ambassador to Turkey recently said that Iran had no problems with the Turkish army operating on Iranian soil in a hot pursuit campaign against to Pesh. The current ops against the Pesh are far more intense and using far more troops than one would expect. The Iranians themselves are busy in one counterinsurgency after another against the Pesh in Iran. There’s Kirkuk. I think the Kurds are in for a hard time from everyone and if you do some searching here and on guides
[sorry mate but I haven’t yet mastered the ability to be in two places simultaneously and doing without sleep in both of them :-) ]
You’ll see that I’m of the opinion that every single one of their neighbours is about to hammer the Kurds again and that they’re living in a dream if they think the US will save their skin.
Comment by markfromireland — August 1, 2006 @ 10:25 pm
That being said - everything’s up in the air. The only certainty is that there’s a deal more killing about to go on all over the place. I wouldn’t be surprised if you were right I wouldn’t be surprised if you weren’t. I have strong suspicions about what’s going on but I don’t actually know and in all honesty I doubt if anyone does.
Steering close to the wind of my own rules … people who use crystal balls are likely to wind up with their (crystal) balls getting kicked so hard that they wind up wearing their (crystal) balls as earings. Not something I’d enjoy.
Comment by markfromireland — August 1, 2006 @ 10:35 pm
I think there are two givens in the situation-
One is, as you say, that everyone has smacked down the Kurds in the past and will do so again in the future. It’s just a matter of when.
Two, everyone ends up regreting being allied with Israel.
And plan B, I was speculating, may be to whack the Kurds early rather than later to gain access to Iraq via Turkey for resupplying.
But you are right about crystal balls. I’m starting to feel like some sort of goulish voyeur. I guess it’s the illusion that if you can predict something you can stop it. And there’s fat chance of that happening.
Thanks for the explanation, Mark, and I hope you are well.
Comment by Griffon — August 2, 2006 @ 2:34 am
Mark,
What credence do you give to the idea that the Siniora coalition government might be replaced by a much more hard line “emergency government” ?
Comment by Rick — August 3, 2006 @ 5:41 am
Rick I presume you’re talking about Walid Jumblatt? He’s been saying that for ages as part of his “renversement des alliances hyperbole is his life’s blood anyway. It’s by no means beyond the bounds of possibililty. The divvying up of political office was due for a shakeup anyway with the alteration of the demographics - something the “Cedar Revolutionaries” forgot. It’s by no means beyond the bound of possibility is how I’d describe it.
Do I need to lecture or will that suffice?
Comment by markfromireland — August 3, 2006 @ 6:15 am
Nope very clear. Thanks. Anyway I remember you of old. Sheesh it was like like trying to get blood out of a stone.
Remember the stringer from Chicago who tried to take ‘photos of you following trip wires?
Followed by a smile an invitation to “join me and the lads for dinner” and the “accidental” removal of a roll of film from my camera. Asshole that would have been a scoop :-)
Comment by Rick — August 3, 2006 @ 6:46 am
LOL my past catching up with me. Yes I remember you. What happened to the Dutch girl who used to do sketches in the vegetable market?
Comment by markfromireland — August 3, 2006 @ 7:15 am
I married her *g*
Comment by Rick — August 3, 2006 @ 7:17 am
Still together I hope. Can I take it that the email addy you gave comes under the heading of a HLZ?
Comment by markfromireland — August 3, 2006 @ 7:25 am
Yup but use this one instead I only use that one for sites that require an email addy to register and anyway who trusts hotmail?
She’s sitting beside me with a big cheshire cat grin on her face we’re over here for an exhibition of some of her stuff. She graduated from sketching vegetables to doing paintings of flowers and makes more than I do damnit :-)
Comment by Rick — August 3, 2006 @ 7:25 am
You have mail. The phone number is to a mobile as I’ll be going out in a few minutes. Just SMS me and I’ll ring you back.
Comment by markfromireland — August 3, 2006 @ 7:28 am
Edited by markfrom Ireland edit = removed obscene language. This commenter is now banned.
mfi
They shot there rockets at us from there buildings and we destroyed there buildings. That is legitmate. Where is the problem? The problem is that you hate Israel and her people and tell clever lies to help destroy her. So sad to a friend turn to enemy but you are not the first.
Comment by Kibbutznik — August 3, 2006 @ 9:35 am
What’s a kibbutznik doing coming in on a dial-up connection from Prague? Are you perhaps one of the people I saw forming lenghty queues outside European embassys both eastern and western applying for passports when I was in Israel last year?
- I’ve a friend who’s a genealogist in Warsaw. She says business is booming.
No don’t bother answering, any comments from you now just go straight into the garbage anyway, it’s entirely automatic, I won’t even know you tried to reply until I check the logs.
No they didn’t shoot their rockets at you from their buildings. That’s a blatant and very stupid lie.
They couldn’t have shot their rockets at you from their buildings. The backblast from a katyusha alone let alone one of the more powerful ones would destroy the building from which it was fired.
You’d know that if you’d bothered to check your facts or had ever seen a katyusha being fired.
The other lie being peddled that katyusha’s were being fired from between buildings is equally ridiculous. The backblast leaves a very distinctive and very large scorch pattern. No scorch pattern = no backblast = no firing took place from that location.
Peddle your lies elsewhere.
Comment by markfromireland — August 3, 2006 @ 4:29 pm
PS: Oh and by the was it’s spelt ‘whore’ you should have spelt ‘there’ as ‘their’ and be glad I can’t be bothered to track you down as if I were ever to meet you I’m not sure I could resist the temptation to permananently wreck your sex life by smashing your wrists irretrievably.
Comment by markfromireland — August 3, 2006 @ 4:43 pm
How glad I am not to be the moderator tonight I could not perform my duties adequately with a coffee soaked keyboard. Now if you will excuse me I need to find a screwdriver and a hairdryer :-(
Comment by omar — August 3, 2006 @ 4:48 pm
LOL Omar there’s more than one way of skinning a
catlieing little likudinik troll.Comment by markfromireland — August 3, 2006 @ 4:51 pm
Before I leave in search of a screwdriver and a hairdryer will you indulge my curiosity old friend?
Did you invent that yourself or did you learn such vile language from somebody else?
Comment by omar — August 3, 2006 @ 4:57 pm
I have been corrupted by listening to an electronic hedgehog from Scotland Omar :-)
Would you mind logging out of the administrator account? The server’s getting confused.
Comment by markfromireland — August 3, 2006 @ 5:10 pm
Ooops! Done, my apologies, I plead my shock in mitigation ;-) Enjoy your evening I will check all comments in a few hours.
Comment by omar — August 3, 2006 @ 5:14 pm
I intend to :-) G’night
Comment by markfromireland — August 3, 2006 @ 5:20 pm
Turkey bomb explosions injure 13
At least 13 people have been injured in two bomb explosions in southern Turkey, police have said.
The first blast occurred near a bank in the city of Adana. It was followed by a second explosion several minutes later at a nearby construction site.
Among the injured were bank employees, students and police officers. The blasts also damaged several police vehicles and shops.
No-one has admitted responsibility for the blasts.
Have you heard about this yet, mark?
Comment by Richard — August 4, 2006 @ 4:38 pm
Just a few minutes ago Richard I’ve been at a seminar all day. And am going through the transcript now preparatory to putting it up on “guides”
The pattern of attacks and counter attacks is not conducive to peace of mind.
Comment by markfromireland — August 4, 2006 @ 5:12 pm
Hello I am a racist troll who lives by the great lakes and who dreams of genocide. I’m also banned.
Comment by Nudnik — August 4, 2006 @ 5:36 pm
Bye Bye Nudzy. Racists not tolerated here.
Comment by markfromireland — August 4, 2006 @ 5:42 pm
Racists not tolerated here.
That’s right mark Likudnudniknikniknikniknikniknikniknik is seriously dim. Amazing how he still thinks he can get away with it.
Comment by Frank — August 5, 2006 @ 2:51 am
i got a boycot right here cos I’m a lazy do nothing redneck, i have quite quite a life sitting trying to type accurately at my semen encrusted keyboard wishing I could kill people, rape kids, like that lucky bastard stephen green got to do i dream of being able to do that all the time ,wow amnt i a great product of a terrorist incest culture.
so i say to our fine boys who unlike me are actually there gettin shot at keep it up ,the more you screw with decent people including muslims, the shorter your already useless life will be.
by the way im not a virgin not in any orifice and i dimly supsect in my mind that whats waiting for me is only an eternal firestorm in HELL!! i dont think ill enjoy it.
by the way Ehud Olmert is an asshole his semen dont taste anything near as good as dick cheneys does!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by boyz — August 10, 2006 @ 11:35 pm
Boyz,
I think you just made a mistake
Comment by Griffon — August 11, 2006 @ 6:32 am
Yeah Griffon - If some inbred redneck who isn’t tough enough to make it anywhere except in the “New South” (bwaa hahahahahaha) sitting safely across the Atlantic using an alltell setup wants to ummmmm massage himself …. about how wonderfully the pack of baby killers that call themselves the IDF are doing he can expect a surprise or two. I’m strongly considering turning the next batch of comments from him over to one of our Muslim moderators with an invitation to get …. creative. By the way did you like his homepage? :-) Hit your refresh button and click his link.
Comment by The Smurph — August 11, 2006 @ 6:50 am
You have the touch of an artist, Smurph.
Perhaps those warnings from my youth weren’t so wrong after all. It DOES send you mad!
Comment by Griffon — August 11, 2006 @ 10:53 am
Smurph, check out Billmon- http://billmon.org/archives/002672.html
Finaly, FINALLY, the Israelis up up against someone who knows how to play poker.
The IDF have to go “all in” (in which case they will lose any credibility and support they have left) or walk away with what chips thay have left.
How is it that such a “shitty little country” (as one British MP called it) can cause so much trouble in the world?
Comment by Griffon — August 11, 2006 @ 11:06 am
Yeah I think we all read Bill Montague - I don’t always agree with him but he’s a good journalist. To answer you though:
By having a colonialist mindset, by believing their own propaganda, by letting their army drive the agenda for years, by not realising that other people can fight too, I wouldn’t go along with that particular comment in toto but there’s a lot of truth in it solong as you specify that it’s how they behave that you object to. As to why all sorts of reasons we could be here all day. Birtish politicians need to be careful about that habit they have of slinging comments like that about the place.
If you go to Wiki and look up Reginald Maudling famously said: “For God’s sake bring me a large Scotch … what a bloody awful country” about the six counties and went on oversee a massive escalation there. If he’d dropped the attitude problem especially after Bloody Sunday there wouldn’t have been a generation of enraged nationalists determined to fight and not too fussy abot how the did the fighting.
Comment by The Smurph — August 11, 2006 @ 2:07 pm
He he it’s still trying Griffon
Comment by The Smurph — August 11, 2006 @ 6:19 pm
Here’s a whole bunch of maps on the Israeli war (atrocity) in Lebanon
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/mideast_war_2006.html
Comment by Griffon — August 13, 2006 @ 1:58 am