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	<title>Comments on: Gorilla&#8217;s Guides: What Was That We&#8217;re All Meant To Be &#8220;Pro&#8221; Again? - Update</title>
	<link>http://markfromireland.blogsome.com/2006/06/13/gorillas-guides-what-was-that-were-all-meant-to-be-pro-again-update/</link>
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		<title>by: markfromireland</title>
		<link>http://markfromireland.blogsome.com/2006/06/13/gorillas-guides-what-was-that-were-all-meant-to-be-pro-again-update/#comment-573</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2006 17:11:46 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Richard,

No I don't think it is sinking in. I don't think it's sinking in at all. 

Part of it is that a lot of people simply freeze like a rabbit in the headlights whenever even quite simple arithmetic is mentioned. And part of it is as you say the sheer enormity of it.  

Floored? 

Wasn't it Stalin who said omething along the lines of once you kill more than a certain number it just becomes a statistic? 

That's what the US is doing in Iraq - has done for more than a decade now. Bombing, starving, bombing, bombarding, and just plain old-fashioned shooting 'em. 

What keeps on running through my mind what I can't get out of mind is what Hannah Arendt said about the &quot;banality of evil.&quot; And it's just so bloody disgusting. 

If you can think of anyway of publicising it and getting it out there please go right ahead.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Richard,</p>
	<p>No I don&#8217;t think it is sinking in. I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s sinking in at all. </p>
	<p>Part of it is that a lot of people simply freeze like a rabbit in the headlights whenever even quite simple arithmetic is mentioned. And part of it is as you say the sheer enormity of it.  </p>
	<p>Floored? </p>
	<p>Wasn&#8217;t it Stalin who said omething along the lines of once you kill more than a certain number it just becomes a statistic? </p>
	<p>That&#8217;s what the US is doing in Iraq - has done for more than a decade now. Bombing, starving, bombing, bombarding, and just plain old-fashioned shooting &#8216;em. </p>
	<p>What keeps on running through my mind what I can&#8217;t get out of mind is what Hannah Arendt said about the &#8220;banality of evil.&#8221; And it&#8217;s just so bloody disgusting. </p>
	<p>If you can think of anyway of publicising it and getting it out there please go right ahead.
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		<title>by: Richard</title>
		<link>http://markfromireland.blogsome.com/2006/06/13/gorillas-guides-what-was-that-were-all-meant-to-be-pro-again-update/#comment-572</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:28:03 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Dubhaltach, it's good to see you here, too.  I hope your own work is working out well - or at any rate, as well as can be expected under the circumstances.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Dubhaltach, it&#8217;s good to see you here, too.  I hope your own work is working out well - or at any rate, as well as can be expected under the circumstances.
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		<title>by: dubhaltach</title>
		<link>http://markfromireland.blogsome.com/2006/06/13/gorillas-guides-what-was-that-were-all-meant-to-be-pro-again-update/#comment-571</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jun 2006 21:09:57 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Richard,

Glad to see you here. Yes it is horrific is it not? But it tallies very exactly with all the other data. There is only one conclusion I wish there was another but there is not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Richard,</p>
	<p>Glad to see you here. Yes it is horrific is it not? But it tallies very exactly with all the other data. There is only one conclusion I wish there was another but there is not.
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		<title>by: Richard</title>
		<link>http://markfromireland.blogsome.com/2006/06/13/gorillas-guides-what-was-that-were-all-meant-to-be-pro-again-update/#comment-570</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jun 2006 19:50:07 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Thanks for this, Mark.  You work like a surgeon, with a super-sharp scalpel.

After all that's already been said here please don't misconstrue the brevity of my comment.

Those compensation figure mathematics have just floored me.  I wonder if the enormous [and horrendous] implications of this revelation is sinking in as it should?  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Thanks for this, Mark.  You work like a surgeon, with a super-sharp scalpel.</p>
	<p>After all that&#8217;s already been said here please don&#8217;t misconstrue the brevity of my comment.</p>
	<p>Those compensation figure mathematics have just floored me.  I wonder if the enormous [and horrendous] implications of this revelation is sinking in as it should?
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		<title>by: egregious</title>
		<link>http://markfromireland.blogsome.com/2006/06/13/gorillas-guides-what-was-that-were-all-meant-to-be-pro-again-update/#comment-569</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jun 2006 15:54:40 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>MFI, fdl is on thread about Iraq. Hope you can join us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>MFI, fdl is on thread about Iraq. Hope you can join us.
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		<title>by: Griffon</title>
		<link>http://markfromireland.blogsome.com/2006/06/13/gorillas-guides-what-was-that-were-all-meant-to-be-pro-again-update/#comment-568</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jun 2006 11:29:31 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Not much, mate</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Not much, mate
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		<title>by: markfromireland</title>
		<link>http://markfromireland.blogsome.com/2006/06/13/gorillas-guides-what-was-that-were-all-meant-to-be-pro-again-update/#comment-567</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jun 2006 07:41:15 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Griffon it's in line with their standard policy what else is their to say? That's how they behaved in Lebanon that's how they behave in Palestine.

That sort of thing is the invariable result of militarisation. Permit your society to become militarised and this is what happens. 

What else is there to say?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Griffon it&#8217;s in line with their standard policy what else is their to say? That&#8217;s how they behaved in Lebanon that&#8217;s how they behave in Palestine.</p>
	<p>That sort of thing is the invariable result of militarisation. Permit your society to become militarised and this is what happens. </p>
	<p>What else is there to say?
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		<title>by: markfromireland</title>
		<link>http://markfromireland.blogsome.com/2006/06/13/gorillas-guides-what-was-that-were-all-meant-to-be-pro-again-update/#comment-566</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jun 2006 07:36:33 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
Can human beings stoop much lower than that?
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Yes</description>
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Can human beings stoop much lower than that?
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	<p>Yes
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		<title>by: Misneach</title>
		<link>http://markfromireland.blogsome.com/2006/06/13/gorillas-guides-what-was-that-were-all-meant-to-be-pro-again-update/#comment-565</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jun 2006 23:31:16 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Its so sad that these murderers were probably normal young men before they were sent off to this ungodly war:  They were sent to fight for an immoral reason, and that immorality has bred evil in their souls I fear...

To shoot a pregnant woman in the back on her way to give birth.  Can human beings stoop much lower than that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Its so sad that these murderers were probably normal young men before they were sent off to this ungodly war:  They were sent to fight for an immoral reason, and that immorality has bred evil in their souls I fear&#8230;</p>
	<p>To shoot a pregnant woman in the back on her way to give birth.  Can human beings stoop much lower than that?
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		<title>by: Griffon</title>
		<link>http://markfromireland.blogsome.com/2006/06/13/gorillas-guides-what-was-that-were-all-meant-to-be-pro-again-update/#comment-561</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jun 2006 13:00:07 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>First Lebanon, now Palestine
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L13748757.htm

Then again, the British bankers have been pulling this well proven stunt for two hundred years in Europe and the Baltic.
First create the problem, then provide your solution. Too easy!

And Mr. Pilger has this to say to say about the situation
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article13627.htm

It's not immoral. It's amoral which is far worse. You need a sense of morality to be immoral
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>First Lebanon, now Palestine<br />
<a href='http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L13748757.htm' rel='nofollow'>http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L13748757.htm</a></p>
	<p>Then again, the British bankers have been pulling this well proven stunt for two hundred years in Europe and the Baltic.<br />
First create the problem, then provide your solution. Too easy!</p>
	<p>And Mr. Pilger has this to say to say about the situation<br />
<a href='http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article13627.htm' rel='nofollow'>http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article13627.htm</a></p>
	<p>It&#8217;s not immoral. It&#8217;s amoral which is far worse. You need a sense of morality to be immoral
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