Earlier this month Turkey deployed an additional 40,000 troops in the southeast.
“the Kurdistan Workers Party is trying to send half of its 4,900 militants (based) in northern Iraq here and preparing for attacks in Turkey’s cities.”This is in addition to the 220,000 to 250,000 troops it already has there.
See also;
Clashes in Southeastern Turkey on the Rise
Violence is on the rise in southeastern Turkey as the Kurdistan Worker’s Party increases its guerilla activity. The government in Ankara is worried about a Kurdish intifada.
Rice offers modest aid to Turkey
By Anne Gearan
Associated Press
ANKARA, Turkey - Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice pledged only modest U.S. help yesterday as Turkey tries to counter a threat from Kurdish rebels using bases across its border with Iraq. She asked for patience with the new Iraqi government.
Turkish Foreign Minister Abdullah Gul said the Turkey-based Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) had free run of a swath of northern Iraq and had set up training camps and bases. Turkey fears that civil unrest in Iraq could lead to the fragmentation of the country and often has called on the United States to stop PKK fighters from using Iraq as a base to stage attacks inside Turkey.
“We’ve shared our expectation that we expect more from them,” Gul said. “Especially, I have shared with Rice that the terrorist organization, benefiting from the power vacuum in northern Iraq, has started to damage Turkey again.”
Rice did not dispute that, but she chose her words carefully.
“We believe that it is important that we make joint efforts, through information-sharing and other means, to prevent… any vacuum from being used as a way to inflict harm here in Turkey,” Rice said after meeting with Gul in Ankara. “We need to work with the new Iraqi government, and we will do that.”
She said the United States, Turkey and Iraq could revive a three-way discussion of the PKK once the Iraqi leadership selected last weekend has formed a new, permanent government.
The United States wants Turkey to hold back from crossing the Iraq border to pursue rebels.
Rice met large and sometimes violent protests against the war in Iraq and U.S. foreign policy during diplomatic visits yesterday to Greece and Turkey
Readers with good memories will recall that Turkey refused to allow its territory to be used to invade Iraq. There seems to be absolutely no level of incompetence below which the Bush administration cannot sink.
See also Juan Cole today 27/04/2006.
and:
Turkey Masses Troops on Iraqi Border by Aaron Glantz (antiwar.com)
and:
Susan at News About Iraq has links to several stories here and accurately characterises this administration as delusional.
markfromireland
(crossposted from my other blog where the title is exapanded somewhat to reflect just how bad this news is.)

As I remearked in the comments over at guides this deserves a long article but even I need to sleep sometimes.
markfromireland.
Comment by markfromireland — April 27, 2006 @ 3:19 pm
Look on the good side the US is broke and this war is costing them a packet assuming that lunatic Bush doesn’t blow us all to kingdom come they’ll be so broke they won’t be able to afford another war for a long time. ‘Course that’s a very big assumption.
Back on topic - Why didn’t you put in the reports of the Iranian troops on Kurdistan’s border?
Comment by the smurph — April 27, 2006 @ 3:41 pm
Hahahahahahahaha! Oh Jaysus that’d be funny if only things weren’t so bad. God help them the place is ruled by two armed drug gangs and none of their neighbours like them.
Comment by declan — April 27, 2006 @ 3:53 pm
Well the American treasury is broke smurhp some of the lobbyists …. not so broke …. ‘though that may be subject to change family values my ….. foot. With any luck this’ll turn into a major sex scandal and royally pee off their fundamentalist base.
smurph:
1) Some of those reports are a bit dubious.
2) Even I have to sleep, eat, work, etc. I’m working on the multi-location multi-tasking thing and I expect to succeed round about the time God grants me a halo, wings, and the ability to be in three places at once *G*
markfromireland
Comment by markfromireland — April 27, 2006 @ 4:14 pm
I swear Gor I didn’t think your typing could get worse but it could and did ;-)
(Ducks and runs for cover …… )
Comment by Declan — April 27, 2006 @ 7:23 pm
GSD just posted this link on FDL:
http://www.kuna.net.kw/Home/Story.aspx?Language=en&DSNO=860438 - Turkey shells Kurdish rebel targets along border with Iraq (Kuwait News Agency)
Comment by siun — April 27, 2006 @ 7:45 pm
Thanks SIUN if you feel like it tell GSD that a spring offensive is SOP this one however is rather more intense than normal and appears to be co-ordinated vis-a-vis area in region bordering Kirkuk Iranian regular troops and Basijii build up on Iranian side of Border some sort of counterinsurgency in Kordestan [I use the Farsi transliteration so as not to confuse people “Kordestan.”] and West Azarbaijan seems to be going on as well.
Comment by markfromireland — April 27, 2006 @ 8:12 pm
Not quite O/T: Dealing with the nationalist insurgency is no longer the main challenge. In any case it will fade as US forces are reduced.
Comment by markfromireland — April 27, 2006 @ 8:35 pm
Speaking of Kurdistan - from the Kurdish National Congress of North America’s site comes this:-
http://www.kncna.org/docs/map.asp
And the queston is, “What’s wrong with this map?”
Comment by Griffon — April 27, 2006 @ 11:58 pm
Apart from the fact that it slices chunks of territory off everyone in the neighbourhood and is dagger shaped there is nothing wrong with that map Griffon.
Comment by Hussain Fadhil — April 28, 2006 @ 12:08 am
Griffon - so if we nuke Iran coz they are thinking in a nuclear direction, we might really be nuking Kurdistan (see map)?
more confused than ever …
Comment by siun — April 28, 2006 @ 12:19 am
Apologies for being criptic. Must turn over new leaf!
If you look at these two maps you will see first that there are no Kurds (in any numbers) living in the southern part of KNCA’s map of “Kurdistan” but there are oilfields instead.
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/middle_east_and_asia/kurdish_lands_92.jpg
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/middle_east_and_asia/iran_major_oilfields78.jpg
One possibility is that the US and Israel will use the Kurds and “Kurdistan” as fronts to hive off and control most of the oilfields and presumably in exchange for the oil will sell them armaments.
The extension of “Kurdistan” down to the Gulf also splits the Shia territories of Iran and Iraq.
How much of this is somebodies pipedream, I don’t know. Maybe Mark (or Declan) could comment when they have time.
Comment by Griffon — April 28, 2006 @ 1:05 am
Having trouble posting.
Try these maps. Comments will follow if these come through.
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/middle_east_and_asia/kurdish_lands_92.jpg
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/middle_east_and_asia/iran_major_oilfields78.jpg
Comment by Griffon — April 28, 2006 @ 1:09 am
Anything with two or more links goes into moderation automatically griffon as anti-spam measure. Too late to follow up tonight but briefly yes the Kurds and Israel are allied and yes Israeli security people are runnning around in Kurdistan.
g’night folks.
markfromireland
Comment by markfromireland — April 28, 2006 @ 1:22 am
That first map is aspirational siun. It’s a mix of territory at one time controlled by Kurds (we’re talking centuries ago the time of Salah ad-Din) together with their heartlands and areas where they now predominate.
This comment is necessarily very quick as I have to get going but one thing not mentioned thus far and a problem throughout Iraq will be weak and inexperienced provincial governments signing PSAs (production sharing agreements) of 40 years duration not even Bremer’s notoriously corrupt CPA signed those. The Saddam regime drove very hard bargains and that expertise will be lost.
Griffon sorry about the link problem we’re having a lot of spambots and for the moment the comment moderation system is in full raving paranioa mode. I get an email everytime someone posts (or tries to) a comment and if thet go into moderation there’s a warning flag that this is to be looked at “zoot de sweet” - it’s a pest but at least you now know it’s not your pest.
Sheesh I detest spambots give me a deposed despots daughter writing me an email asking me she can pretty please give me a few million dollars if (in total secrecy) I pass her my bank account details and a couple of thosuand quid to cover the administration fees. You can have fun with those, especially the inexperienced ones.
Anyway I’ll check back later. Part 2 of “laying the groundwork” comes out next week. Still not sure if the advice I was given to leave gaps of a month so people could follow the links and gen up was good or not.
Comment by markfromireland — April 28, 2006 @ 5:34 am
“Aspirational” is a good word for it, Mark.
And get some sleep, already!
Comment by Griffon — April 28, 2006 @ 7:17 am
Mark, I’ve very, very interested [and grateful] for all the Turkey bumph - for very personal reasons. And I dread some of my [hopefully ungrounded] worries becoming real fears.
Comment by Richard — April 28, 2006 @ 2:12 pm
Expect light commenting from me tonight I’m busily engaged in making somebody curse the day I was born. The question and answer session below explains all.
Question: “Mummy why is the gorilla bouncing the skiddy’s head off the wall?”
Answer: “Because the little eeedjit forgot to mask his IP address dear.”
Comment by markfromireland — April 28, 2006 @ 6:49 pm
yeow … I almost feel sorry for the little eeedjit!
but not much
Comment by siun — April 28, 2006 @ 11:18 pm
From Chris Floyd:-
http://www.chris-floyd.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=615&Itemid=1
“Power gone mad in the darkness”, to quote David Crosby
Comment by Griffon — April 30, 2006 @ 4:16 am
Interesting article postulating a possible Israeli attack on Iran:-
http://www.fpif.org/fpiftxt/3251
And another (2003)
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3288.htm
with lots of background on Middle East nuclear history plus this nugget which is worth bearing in mind when reading the first article:-
“Such an air war would be launched from bases in neighboring Iraq, and from carriers in the Gulf. Israel might join in the attacks. U.S-Israeli military cooperation increased after 911. Since 1997 the Israeli Air Force has conducted annual training exercises in Turkey, presumably to prepare for just such a war. Turkey has rugged terrain similar to Iran’s. According to Noam Chomsky, before the current conflict some 10% of the Israeli Air Force was permanently based in Turkey. (personal communication, April 16, 2003)”
Comment by Griffon — April 30, 2006 @ 6:15 am
Merits of Partitioning Iraq or Allowing Civil War Weighed
Comment by markfromireland — April 30, 2006 @ 7:35 am
Re the WaPoo article- I think we should see if we can’t arrange a padded room for Maj. Isaiah Wilson 111 (and last hopefully).
Mark, I take it that this is a trial balloon if not pre-conditioning.
I hope you weren’t drinking anything when you read this bit - “former ambassador James Dobbins, a Rand Corp. expert on peacekeeping”!
Can you have a double oxymoron?
Comment by Griffon — April 30, 2006 @ 8:59 am
It’s not the first one Griffon Let Them Have Their Civil War. Take a look at the last paragraph of this as well.
There’s a lot of people who’d have you believe that because Iraq was carved out of the Ottoman empire that it is completely artificial that’s not true if you look at Iraqi and Ottoman documents from around the turn of the last century you’ll see lots of references to “Iraq” not that there weren’t tensions - there were. But there was clearly a sense of:
“There’s this place called `Iraq´ and we live here it’s our home”
Now that Sistani is actively ebgaging himself in politics I’m a bit more hopeful. I’m not saying that there won’t be a lot of bloodshed (including quite likely the Kurds getting it in the neck from everybody) but it’s nothing to what’ll happen if they stay.
Comment by markfromireland — April 30, 2006 @ 2:27 pm
Media here is reporting the results of the IAEA Iran report as ‘Iran is noncompliant’ while Juan Cole reported that the results were basically compliant - even on liberal blogs, Iran is now being depicted as “noncompliant” which points again to the problem of even folks who don’t like the MSM trusting MSM when it reports on “the enemy” - !
For a break, take a look at the video of Stephen Colbert at the WH Correspondents Dinner skewering Bush, while Bush sat 2 feet away. Starts a bit slow but he nails it.
Crooks and Liars has or will have the video and Cspan broadcast it and so will have the footage as well. Of most interest to me was the clear discomfort (to say the least) of the media at the criticism of W and of them. The dinner has a history of controversy but is an annual deal with over 2000 invitees - the pres is always invited and speaks - he’s expected to give a funny, laugh at himself speech rather than a serious one - this is the dinner where W used the little film of him looking under his desk for wmd - what a horror that was so last night’s Colbert performance was particularly wonderful.
Comment by siun — April 30, 2006 @ 5:23 pm
I get an email every time there’s a comment here. There are times when google’s ability to read my mind gets me seriously worried.
Legal Notice: To protect the guilty I have edited the screen screen shot to remove identifying details. :-)
markfromireland
Comment by markfromireland — April 30, 2006 @ 6:18 pm
ah synchronicity!
link to Colbert transcript and videos - best watched if possible:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=1062760&mesg_id=1062760
Comment by siun — April 30, 2006 @ 6:41 pm
He He He. Feel free to save that picture and email it to all your friends Siun. :-)
Comment by markfromireland — April 30, 2006 @ 7:05 pm
my 15 minutes! gmta
Comment by siun — April 30, 2006 @ 8:17 pm
Mark, Are you aware of this latest developement, mate? (If you’re not already fast asleep.) The US apparently are asking Turkey to let them launch from there. Do you know any more?
http://aliberaldose.blogspot.com/2006/05/at-rubicon-us-asks-turkey-to-host-iran.html
Comment by Richard — May 2, 2006 @ 1:36 am
Yes Richard and am trying to get a handle on it. Wouldn’t surprise me but I’d drop dead with shock and surprise if the Turks said “yes.”
Comment by markfromireland — May 2, 2006 @ 12:56 pm
Mark re: dropping dead with shock. That makes more than several of us who would all end up laying prone in pile. My brother and wife live there. I visit them there;hence my intense interest in all matters Turkish.
However, it’s no state secret that the US hate the prospect of a ‘European’ [and Euro-using] Turkey. Nor is it any secret [anywhere earthbound] regarding the golden oldie, ‘Instabitiies-r-US’ one.
Comment by Richard — May 2, 2006 @ 1:34 pm
True Richard and they hate even more that an Islamist party came to power democratically and is ruling democratically and that the army is happy enough with this situation. They REALLY hate that that government did what it said it would do and what the overwhelming majority of Turks wanted it to do and refused flat out to let them invade Iraq via Turkey three years ago. I haven’t forgotten the vitriol with which the fact that the democratically elected government of a sovereign country chose to do their job was greeted in Washington. I envy your brother and sister in law - great country and formiddably hospitable people. For the record I’d love to see Turkey in the EU everyone except a neo-colonialist American or two would benefit hugely from this. In fact I’ve been asked to give a talk next week saying just this and have of course said “yes.”
Comment by markfromireland — May 2, 2006 @ 2:18 pm
Mark, I see you ‘know’ Turkey and it’s people. Great country & formiddably hospitable people. could well have been my own words. He’s also lucky enough to live on the Southern coast, and so enjoys the the marvelous Med climate, to boot. Your envy is understandable; I envy them too. Perhaps it’s not exactly patriotic to say it, but I hate it when I to have to come back ‘home’. If I could, I’d move there tomorrow without giving it a second thought.
Also, I’d love to hear more about your upcoming speaking engagement - if that’s permissable/possible.
Comment by Richard — May 2, 2006 @ 5:19 pm
Will do Richard, and I understand completely I’ve loved Denmark and her gentle beauty from the first time I saw her, Ireland’s many different beautiful faces move me in a way I find difficult to describe. That’s why I did those postings “Beir Beannacht” and “I nGleanntaibh ceoigh” none of which stops me appreciating the wonders of other places and missing them dreadfully when I’m not there - just as you do.
Comment by markfromireland — May 2, 2006 @ 5:55 pm