I nGleanntaibh ceoigh - why I say “no”
“i ngleanntaibh ceoigh”
“Within the foggy glens”
Sometimes in all the horror with which we deal we need to remind ourselves of peaceful places, times, and people, lest as Nietzsche warned, when we gaze into the abyss we find it staring right back at us. This somewhat self-indulgent posting is me reminding myself of why I fight.
If you’re Irish you come from a country that was invaded and rose in rebellion quite literally once a generation. Ireland was at war more or less permanently for 800 years until eventually the invaders were forced to sign a peace treaty and leave most of the island, hanging on only to a politically and economically unviable rump of their former colony. The Republic from which I come and whose constitution contains the promise that she will cherish all her children equally is a lot less than a 100 years old. Within my lifetime the Republic has gone from a poverty stricken backwater to a vibrant, successful, and open society.
I’m very proud of that.
Within my lifetime, or shortly thereafter, I expect Ireland to be united and that that’ll be done peacefully. I have no doubt that there will be atrocities and setbacks - but the momentum of the peace process is such that it is now unstoppable.
I’m very proud of that too, even fifteen years ago saying or writing that would have been inconceivable.
The place in the photo above is an easy bicycle ride and then a short walk from the home in which I grew up. It was the scene of a ferocious and bloody revenge attack upon a patrol of British “irregulars” - the notorious “Black and Tans.” The “Tans” were counter terrorists used by what was at the time the most powerful empire the world had ever seen. We had risen in rebellion yet again and in an early version of the “Salvadoran Option” the British empire resorted to terrorism, death squads, collective punishments, murder, torture, and rape to try to get their oldest colony back under their heel.
I’m probably one of the very few people who knows what happened at that place now and I only know about it because I knew some of the elderly men who had fought in our war of independence. Certainly it wasn’t known to the family from South London peacefully having a picnic there on the last day of their Irish holiday and who sent me this photo. I saw no reason to enlighten them - those days are long gone.
The leader of the 1916 uprising that started the war of independence - Padhraic Pearse, famously characterised the British empire as “strong and wise and wary” but strong and wise and wary though they were they failed and went down into the dust. Empires built on blood and racism always do fail in the end and their life-spans are getting shorter and shorter. Empires are built on fear and the biggest change of my lifetime is that “brown people” are no longer afraid and longer prepared to let others set their societies’ agendas. Long after the current attempt at an American empire is but a bitter and embarassing memory, people like me and you, and them, the people who say “no” will still be here.
On those days when we come close to despair, we need to remember that.
Mháircaish.

1) There are times when you bring tears to my eyes.
2) You forgot to resize the image so the layout is bollixed.
3) Don’t even think of fixing it tonight. Be a good little gorilla and eff to bed like you’re meant to or the veternirary surgeon will be annoyed with you. Far more importantly so will I. :-)
Comment by the smurph — March 20, 2006 @ 8:52 pm
Yeah and second smurph’s motion too. RHIP as you constantly remind us :-)
Comment by Declan — March 20, 2006 @ 9:24 pm
God you must be on the mend when you are waxin’ poetic like - the photo whether the layout is bollixed or not quite takes my breath away!
Comment by Grania — March 20, 2006 @ 10:04 pm
As just a second generation Brit (my gran really was Old Mother Riley) I’d like to say:”Bloody ‘ell! What a coincidence!”
The missus & me spent the day sttolling round Southport, and bumped into an old mate I worked with for a long time but hadn’t seen in yonks. We all call him Marty. His full name is Martin Patrick Collins. His granddad was a big fellah.
Comment by Richard — March 21, 2006 @ 12:30 am
Oh, I forgot to say that Marty’s got two sons. One’s another Marty and one’s another Michael.
;^)
Comment by Richard — March 21, 2006 @ 12:36 am
this daughter of Connell smiles a thank you through the tears
(noting that my father used to say we were O’Connell’s who were also Danish nobility and my gran used to snort and say, “the nobility who worked in the mines!”)
Comment by siun — March 21, 2006 @ 1:17 am
Hey Mark, clare from Firedoglake here - directed to your site this evening by siun.
wow- found a wiki link about the Black & Tans this week end while refreshing my memory on
Éirí Amach na Cásca ! (was helping out the college girl)
hope you and yours are well. beautiful post and, oh btw, This Yank Says No!
Comment by cbl — March 21, 2006 @ 4:37 am
Janey mack Richard - I knew there was a reason I was drawn to your site!
Comment by Grania — March 21, 2006 @ 5:49 pm
It is a lovely photo and I’ll debollix the layout when I get to my other machine later in the week. I could have sworn I got the dimensions right. Ho hum.
It took my breath away too Grania. Arrived in my inbox one morning and … oh my! I really wasn’t expecting it and was very pleased that the card I’d given them when we were swapping addresses was one of the ones with an email addy on it.
Richard - yup a very big fella indeed, and very much my personal hero. What would have happened if he’d survived is one of those “might have beens.”
Hi Clare and welcome over - more and more Yanks are saying “no.” That’s one of the good things about Yanks they tend to get very annoyed when people violate their standards of decency in their name.
Now a question for you - as Siun is descended from Danish miners (they have to have been chalk miners as those are the only mines Denmark has ever had.) What do you say we ask Jane to produce a film starring Siun called:
“Chalk miner’s daughter” ?
Siun can cherish her Oscar, Jane can put the millions towards firedoglake with a little left over for Kobe and Co and Cissy Spacek can eat her heart out :-)
Comment by markfromireland — March 21, 2006 @ 8:15 pm
Re the Big Fellah - if you went to Beal na Blath like I did as I child every August for the memorial our paths probably crossed. At every Duffy funeral and wedding up until the late 70s we went over the ambush in minute detail (to much rolling of eyes by the younger generation). Sadly, my father never lived to see the film - aspects of which would have both pleased and angered him.
How would you like to be the history teacher trying to teach the Treaty with both a de Valera and an O’Higgens in the same class?
I can’t wait for Chalk MIner’s daughter!
Comment by Grania — March 21, 2006 @ 10:51 pm
I best be working on that big hair look …
(but I really wanna play Maud Gonne)
Comment by siun — March 22, 2006 @ 2:38 am
Our paths probably have crossed so Grania.
Isn’t it amazing what you learn in the blogosphere? As a boy I always wondered who the stern figure who stalked the streets of Ranelagh in body armour and a riot shield was and now I know - it was you guys’ history teacher.
Gosh! :-)))
Comment by markfromireland — March 22, 2006 @ 4:19 pm
LOL Siun - I kind of thought you might get a giggle from that.
Comment by markfromireland — March 22, 2006 @ 4:22 pm
“stalked the streets of Ranelagh” indeed! Ha! Bleedin’ little Sandymount mucksavage. And then he complains when we fingerprint him when he crosses the Ha’penny bridge. Did you ever hear the like huh?
‘Course if Grania went to school in Ranelagh (Muckross????) then that’s north of the Dodder so we’ll declare her an honourary northsider if she isn’t a northsider already.
:-))))))))))))))))))))
Comment by Tony Byrne — March 22, 2006 @ 4:55 pm
Yeah - call off the dogs and the neverending tape of Tammy Wynette - I’m a Muckross girl - and I grew up in the southside (DunLaoire) but my parents are proud Northsiders. The history teacher was a part-time lecturer from Trinity - we seemed to have had trouble retaining history teachers - can’t imagine why. Now since my background has been checked can I still play?
Comment by Grania — March 22, 2006 @ 7:26 pm
Siun - when you get the secret to ‘big hair’ please pass it on. I might try it for Halloween next year
Comment by Grania — March 22, 2006 @ 7:30 pm
Grania dear … I once had my hair done at a place in Anaheim - had a biz meeting and no time so ran into the hotel “salon” and got the full OC treatment - really big hair which did not move a millimeter all day - frightened the bejeezus outta me but I noticed that men suddenly opened doors!
makes you wonder, eh?
Comment by siun — March 22, 2006 @ 7:36 pm
Siun - yeah big hair works in Anaheim blond too even better. Maybe you’ve noticed this too but I get much better service when out with my 19 year old daughter!
Comment by Grania — March 22, 2006 @ 7:50 pm
LOL that’ll larn yah Anto now you’ve got the big hair brigade after you if you don’t behave yourself :-)
BTW Grania Anto’s originally from Donnybrook he’s what you might call a renegade ;-)
Comment by markfromireland — March 22, 2006 @ 9:12 pm
Donnybrook yer jokin’- I gather it’s a different place compared to when I was hanging out there. It’s part of that Dublin 4 zone isn’t it.? I am trying to think of the bar there on the main drag - was it Kiely’s? I used to walk past Mary Magdelen’s laundry almost every day - but it’s probably long gone now - hope so!
In my younger days I would have given anything for big hair!
Comment by Grania — March 22, 2006 @ 10:35 pm
Grania - now I’m worried about you! Come to Chicago and we’ll take care of that CA hair
Comment by siun — March 23, 2006 @ 3:35 am
Siun - I always wanted to have masses of dark tumbling curls. So when I talk about ‘big hair’ that’s what I mean - as opposed to helmut type typical Republican woman’s ‘do’. Sorry for scaring you!
Comment by Grania — March 23, 2006 @ 6:18 pm
Phew!
Comment by markfromireland — March 23, 2006 @ 7:17 pm
Hey Grania - my favored place in my entertaining nieghborhood could do masses of tumbling dark curls … I love watching what they do with weaves and extensions and …
I am relieved …
and for all our silliness, this post sticks in my mind … thanks mark for fun and inspiration!
Comment by siun — March 24, 2006 @ 2:39 am
You’re welcome Siun I’ve enjoyed it too - even if the shameful secret that I’m a
haa now been revealed to all who care to read it :-)
Comment by markfromireland — March 24, 2006 @ 5:50 am
better than lace curtain irish!
so, what I really want to know is which of the mfi regulars amongst the gentleman has big hair?
Comment by siun — March 24, 2006 @ 4:59 pm
Well I like to take off the hair shirt - figuratively speaking of course - occasionally and have a good laugh.
Yeah Siun I did the perm thing way back - I looked ridiculous - now I’m strictly wash ‘n wear gal! I hadn’t heard that term lace curtain Irish until I came here - and didn’t take it as a slur until it was explained to me.
Mark - if I can live with being a Muckross Park girl who craved masses of dark tumbling curls and lived with the ghost of Michael Collins you can surely live with being a Sandymount ‘mucksavage’ - though I remember Sandymount as a lovely spot.
SRSLY there has to be one of you guys with big hair - come on!
Comment by Grania — March 24, 2006 @ 5:43 pm
I used to have big hair when I was younger. Does that count?
Comment by markfromireland — March 25, 2006 @ 4:55 pm
Big hair? Ha! You should have seen mine in the sixties. Nobody ever believed that I didn’t perm it. But I didn’t: I never needed to. Honest. (Think, the young Tom Jones). $$:^)
Nowadays though, most of my big hair is of the ear, nose & eyebrow type. Heh. It comes to us all, y’know. Eventually. ;^)
Comment by Richard — March 25, 2006 @ 10:17 pm
my ex had a monster afro and sideburns - sorta odd on a upper class jewish kid but hey - sorta lost it’s charm when I discovered he used to put “dippity do” on it (this was a weird popular hair product in the 60’s … strange pink gel) - I should have taken that as an omen, eh?
Comment by siun — March 26, 2006 @ 6:42 am