Reaction to the Samarra Bombing
Update 03 mfi Feb 23rd 23:00:I’m finishing a posting on this now - however in response to many enquiries from people a bit unsure of the basics or who wanted their memory refreshed I’ve done a background briefing here
Further updates are at the bottom of this posting.
I started to write about this early yesterday - it’s now 02:05 A.M. I’ll finish doing so tomorrow, later today, when I’ve slept a bit, and thought a bit more about it. The attack was conducted with impeccable technique, and timing, the reaction predictable. This doesn’t presage anything good, for anybody.
I’ve spent a lot of time today on various message boards reading the reaction, here’s a sample anything between square brackets [like this] is an editorial comment from me:
“No Muslim would do this, this came from a crusader’s mind.”
“My Muslim brothers this will force more crusader patrols = more targets.”
“Cover story for a Predator Hellfire strike.”
“A Shi’ite mosque and a Sunni mosque are the SAME!. ALL mosques are dedicated to God’s worship. Why would Sunni’s attack their own mosque? This was the Americans and their filth [sic] English dogs.”
“My brothers this is no coincidence consider that in the space of a few days we have:
- The Danish cartoons.
- More photos of the evil the crusaders do in and are still doing in Abu Ghraib.
- We have the British army assaulting Muslim children.
- We have an “incident” at the jail. [I don’t know what incident this was but everyone else seemed to and this comment got lots of agreement. - mfi ]
- Our brother Shiite’s mosques in Pakistan have been bombed just yesterday.
- Just yesterday the massacre of Shiites and now;
- This most heinous act of desecration.
No reasonable person can believe that any of these acts are random, they were all planned and co-ordinated by the Americans and the Danes and the English to plunge us to war so they can continue to rape our land.”
“This was AMERICANS their soldiers are either nigger savages or white crusader filth from their sewers in their South. They are evil and stupid to think they could get away with this.
If I go into my home and find my baby dead with a knife in its back, my wife with her throat slashed and a lunatic escaped from the asylum covered in blood laughing at me. Then I must conclude that it is he who who has slain my wife and my child.
THIS WAS AMERICANS.”
“This serves the purposes of those who want civil war in Iraq, so they can keep stealing our resources.
It is logical to conclude unless they prove their innocence that it was planned by those same people.” [emphasis in original - mfi]
“Perhaps the Shiite collaborators will now rue the day that they decided to collaborate with the great Satan USA and its English *** [an obscenity meaning oh “catamite” is close enough - mfi.]
Update 01: mfi 3:50am CPH time. Forgot to mention that dusk to Dawn curfew declared by Baqer Jabr Solagh (Interior minister) in Baghdad and Salahuddin governorate. Curfew applies to other governorates from 20:00 p.m. to 6:00 a.m. Governors have the right to extend or cut the curfew term. Police and army placed on maximum alert. - Readers might like to note he is a member of SCIRI [Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq] Readers should also note that Abdul-Aziz al-Hakim, SCIRI’s head has directly linked US Ambassador to Iraq Zalmay Khalizad [link opens in new window] recent heavy handed attempts to railroad politicians here to the bombing as follows:
“Of a certainty, the statements made by the ambassador were not made in a responsible way and he did not behave like an ambassador.
These statements were the cause of more pressure and gave green lights to terrorist groups. He therefore, shares in part of the responsibility.”
Update 02: mfi 4:40am CPH time. See round-up posting at Informed Comment. [link opens in new window]
Knight Ridder’s report “Violence rages in Iraq after bombing of Shiite shrine.” [link opens in new window]
Knight Ridder’s reporting of Khalizad’s attempted railroading coupled with threats [link opens in new window]
Update 03: at top of page.
Update 04: mfi Feb 24th 12:38 .Gordo has a timeline and discusses this in the light of the “Salvador Option” here [link opens in new window]

Whether they directly or indirectly, there is truth here to an extent. So many Americans feel as though we are foreigners in our own country and are trying so hard to find a way to turn things around. I think it would help the discussion, mark, if you posted some of the firedoglake comments on Redd’s thread about the bombing of the mosque- it it important that those reading this blog from the Middle East hear words from people whose only political agenda is peace and hope for the entire planet. We did not want the invasion in Iraq and we did not want this President and his criminal friends to do any of the heinous things they have done. That they have done it all in the name of “democracy” is a source of shame and disgust to us. My heart aches at what has been lost and what may be coming; I pray for peace and that ordinary Iraqis may someday understand that there are millions of ordinary Americans who wish them well.
An Ordinary American ~ Me
I am a 50 year old mother of 2 sons who lives in Massachusetts. I am a hospice nurse who cares for patients who are dying and supports thier families through the process. I like to read blogs and just about anything else. I spend part of each day writing letters to my legislators trying to end the Bush regime and the war. I will not stop trying, I promise.
Comment by zennurse — February 23, 2006 @ 2:27 am
hi mark
THANK YOU for doing this.
Back in 1989, a friend and I were in my apartment in Basel, talking about the new direction of things in the world, patiently waiting for the Berlin Wall to fall (I keep a blue hunk of it in my liquour cabinet). Then my friend asked, “So with the Cold War ending, who is going to be the next enemy? Who’s the lucky winner?” In the moment it took us to entertain the question seriously, the answer became obvious to us both: “The Arabs.” And where would we attack first? “Iraq.”
Iraq was perfect. Unexploited oil fields. A corrupt sectarian dictator weakened by war. Baghdad. A country that could be splintered like slate by buying its competing tribes and clerics off. It was foolproof, like a bank just begging to be robbed. And having the Arabs as enemies would keep the machinery going, with the profits higher and the stakes lower.
What didn’t occur to us was how badly the West would blow it.
Comment by MarcLord — February 23, 2006 @ 3:29 am
How much sleep did you actually get?
Comment by the smurph — February 23, 2006 @ 10:02 am
Not much, so little in fact that I forgot to turn off that status notifier you used to check up on me - Thanks mate I appreciate it.
Comment by markfromireland — February 23, 2006 @ 10:16 am
How many so far?
Comment by declan — February 23, 2006 @ 2:15 pm
Deco if you mean bodies found:
As of 13:00 hours 105.
Then there’s the bomb in Baqoubah so far 16 fatalities. That’ll go up 21 injured that I know of so far some of ATR are not expected to last the day.
Comment by markfromireland — February 23, 2006 @ 2:24 pm
Have you included the children killed in the bombing of the school.
Comment by ali — February 23, 2006 @ 2:25 pm
Yes Ali I have.
Comment by markfromireland — February 23, 2006 @ 2:26 pm
Hang on Ali which bombing? Message me.
Comment by markfromireland — February 23, 2006 @ 2:27 pm
Make that 127 No sorry it’s 130
Comment by markfromireland — February 23, 2006 @ 2:30 pm
Just to cheer everyone up. Courtesy of the cartoons the death toll in Nigeria is now 138.
And this isn’t good:
That’s from Reuters.
This is desecration isn’t it? That’s how it’ll be seen?
Comment by the smurph — February 23, 2006 @ 2:55 pm
Oh fuck
Comment by markfromireland — February 23, 2006 @ 3:01 pm
Hell Is Now
Hell in Iraq just became one giant step closer to Hell in America. The sacred Askari Mosque was destroyed by an explosion today. As a result, there will be Hell to pay….
Trackback by democracycellproject — February 23, 2006 @ 3:28 pm
138 (including the 4 US soldiers)
Comment by markfromireland — February 23, 2006 @ 4:01 pm
HI, (FDL lurker checking in).
impressive post, put it together w/ juan cole’s observations and there’s a persuasive case that civil war has begun. Thanks.
Comment by tim — February 23, 2006 @ 4:33 pm
It is almost impossible to get back away from these events and get perspective. This reporting certainly helps. As for zennurse, hang in there. There are a lot of us out here.
Comment by Dr. C. — February 23, 2006 @ 6:53 pm
Amen Doc - and you’re begining to take back America.
Comment by markfromireland — February 23, 2006 @ 7:04 pm
Thanks Mark for the stellar job in laying out all this information for your readers. Riverbend has blogged about this today also!
Comment by Grania — February 23, 2006 @ 11:23 pm
I didn’t see one mention of the C.I.A. on this page. Tendency of history repetition and mathematics of probability beckon me to include it.
Comment by Pocho — February 24, 2006 @ 12:20 am
Pocho:
Every single one of to those is a reference either to the CIA or to the US army and would be clearly understood as such by both the authors and their readers. As a general point you can take it that in such fora the US army are seen as acting explicitly either under direct orders of the CIA or to further policy goals set by the CIA.
Hope this helps :-)
mfi
Comment by markfromireland — February 24, 2006 @ 12:29 am
mark, I am so sorry for your grief,and that of your friends and family. Thank you for keeping us informed, both here and at firedoglake
Comment by zennurse — February 24, 2006 @ 3:15 am
Good background briefing I hope people read it as well as this article - also this is better than blogger. Faster too.
Comment by dubhaltach — February 24, 2006 @ 3:43 pm
I finally made it here, Mark. Strewth. What a first post to read. It hurts just to read it. I’ll have to bite my lip and believe the old saying about there being no gain without pain.
The world needs to know about all this. Thank God people like you are helping fufil that need.
(Oh, and hi, dubhaltach. I hope all’s well with you.)
Comment by Richard — February 25, 2006 @ 6:04 pm
You ain’t seen nothin’ yet I’m asking that most awkward of questions about the bombing: “Qui bono?”
Comment by markfromireland — February 25, 2006 @ 7:07 pm
thanks for the update, mark. I will be interested to see how our idiot president reacts to this, and how the US media will report it. I think I will stick with Al Jazeera.
You’re a treasure.
Comment by zennurse — March 4, 2006 @ 1:54 am